We're definitely the Dynast and Trap from Luceti! That reminds me that I need to tag into that meme soon, but like you said, I don't think we threaded back then. No matter, we'll make up for it here.

And Iiiiii am actually somewhat canon blind to LL because all I've done is play several months of SIF and give up because expert mode was too difficult for me. How am I supposed to tier anything if I can't even pass expert mode!